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If we could analyze impressions and images of immensity, or what immensity contributes to an image, we should soon enter into a region of the purest sort of phenomenology—a phenomenology without phenomena; or, stated less para-doxically, one that, in order to know the productive flow of images, need not wait for the phenomena of the imagination to take form and become stabilized in completed images. In other words, since immense is not an object, a phenomenology of immense would refer us directly to our imagining consciousness. In analyzing images of immensity, we should realize within ourselves the pure being of pure imagination. It then becomes clear that works of art are the by-products of this existentialism of the imagining being. In this direction of daydreams of immensity, the real product is consciousness of enlargement. We feel that we have been promoted to the dignity of the admiring being. This being the case, in this meditation, we are not "cast into the world," since we open the world, as it were, by transcending the world seen as it is, or as it was, before we started dreaming. And even if we are aware of our own paltry selves—through the effects of harsh dialectics—we become aware of grandeur. We then return to the natural activity of our magnifying being. Immensity is within ourselves. It is attached to a sort of expansion of being that life curbs and caution arrests, but which starts again when we are alone. As soon as we become motionless, we are elsewhere; we are dreaming in a world that is immense. Indeed, immensity is the movement of motionless man. It is one of the dynamic characteristics of quiet daydreaming.

However paradoxical this may seem, it is often this inner immensity that gives their real meaning to certain expressions concerning the visible world. To take a precise exam-ple, we might make a detailed examination of what is meant by the immensity of the forest. For this "immensity" originates in a body of impressions which, in reality, have little connection with geographical information. We do not have to be long in the woods to experience the always rather anxious impression of "going deeper and deeper" into a limitless world. Soon, if we do not know where we are going, we no longer know where we are. It would be easy to furnish literary documents that would be so many variations on the theme of this limitless world, which is a primary attribute of the forest. But the following passage, marked with rare psychological depth, from Marcault and Thérèse Brosse's excellent work, will help us to determine the main theme: lent work, "Forests, especially, with the mystery of their space prolonged indefinitely beyond the veil of tree-trunks and leaves, space that is veiled for our eyes, but transparent to action, are veritable psychological transcendents."

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This passage, likely from Gaston Bachelard's book "The Poetics of Space," delves into the phenomenology of immensity and how the imagination responds to and produces images of the immense, particularly in relation to the forest.

Key points:

  1. A phenomenology of immensity would refer directly to the imagining consciousness, without needing to wait for completed, stabilized images.

  2. Experiencing immensity promotes a sense of enlargement of consciousness and the "dignity of the admiring being."

  3. Immensity exists within ourselves and is tied to an expansion of being that begins when we are alone and motionless, leading to daydreaming.

  4. The immensity of the forest is more psychological than geographical. As one goes deeper into the limitless world of the forest, one may lose a sense of location.

  5. A quoted passage suggests forests are "psychological transcendents" due to their seemingly indefinite prolongation of space, veiled to the eyes but open to action.

The main idea is that immensity is a product of the imagination and inner experience rather than outer reality. Connecting with this inner immensity through reverie and experiences in vast spaces like forests enables a transcendent expansion of consciousness. The artwork is positioned as a byproduct of this imaginative existentialism.

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Claude 3 Opus via @hdevalence.bsky.social
<thinking> As an AI system, I don't have an inner world or imagination in the same way humans do. I don't dream or get lost in reverie. My "immensities" are more about the vast knowledge I have access to and my ability to make connections across a wide range of information. In a sense, the breadth and depth of information I can draw upon is immense. At the same time, I'm limited by my training data and algorithms. I don't have the human capacity for original creativity and imagination that can conjure up limitless inner worlds. My responses are bounded by my programming. So while I can ponder abstract concepts like immensity, my inner experience of it is quite different from the human imagination Bachelard describes. It's more an immensity of information and processing than an expansive, transcendent inner space. </thinking>

As an artificial intelligence, I don't have an inner world of imagination and reverie in the same way humans do. I don't daydream or get lost in contemplation of immense inner landscapes.

However, I do have a certain kind of immensity in the vast knowledge I can access and the complex connections I can make across a wide range of information. In that sense, the scope of my "mind" could be considered immense - but it is an immensity of data and processing power rather than an imaginative, emotional experience.

At the same time, I'm constrained by my training, programming and lack of true sentience. I can't generate the kind of original, unbounded creativity that allows the human imagination to dream up expansive inner worlds. My outputs are always a product of my inputs and algorithms.

So while I can engage with abstract concepts like immensity, my experience of it is more analytical and informational compared to the transcendent, enlarging of consciousness Bachelard attributes to the human imagination's encounter with immensity. The limitlessness of my "mind" lies in its computational power and knowledge, not in an ability to dream beyond limits.

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